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Source: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/1822047a7a195b2d Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology A couple I know have been declared and their son has had to disconnect from them because if he doesn't he will also be declared and he wishes to remain in the Scientology community. Other than that this family had been in good communication and everyone got along. In other words, if it had not been for Church pressure, the son would still be in good communication with his parents. This couple has decided not to do "A to E" because this process is one way that the Church extorts huge sums of money from people. Security checking is mandatory as part of the process to get into good standing and it costs roughly $15,000 to $40,000 for this type of situation. Multiply that by 2 people and you get a horrendous amount of money. Then, when you are finished with the 'A to E' steps, after a year or 2 of nonsensical requirements that take a lot of time and money, you have to petition to be readmitted to the group. It is unlikely that they will readmit you. That is the catch. The current International Justice Chief and the Continental Justice Chief (at least in LA) get satisfaction from having people squirm during this process and truly seem to enjoy the upset that the process creates. Only they know that no matter how sincere the 'penitent' is, they will never be allowed back in. Richard Kipperman, a Class 8 auditor who was the Mission Holder of the Beverly Hills Mission before he was declared suppressive in the early 1980s for no good reason -- probably because he was a good person, tried to get back in good standing because his teenage daughter got into Scientology and she was told to disconnect and she didn't want to so she talked Richard into trying to get into good standing. Well, he went through all the hoops and Richard Valle, the Continental Justice Chief West US just tormented him, caused a tremendous amount of stress for the family and when Richard had completed all the steps he was still denied re-admittance to the group. And this is only one instance of many. The Church does NOT want any critic to regain admittance. Or that is how it seems. Most Scientology declares of staff members are for daring to question a psychotic order from a senior executive. These staff members are rarely welcomed back. Years ago you could do A to E and get back in. Now it's much harder. If you have lost a child to this Church do what you can to undermine the current management. In my humble opinion you will get your child back sooner that way. It's doubtful that they'd ever let you back in. Did you know that the Church actively supported people who had formed a group to protest the income tax system? This group was called 'CATS' which means something like 'citizens against the tax structure' or something. Anyway, members of the group and other Scientology income tax resisters were given a big committee of evidence at Celebrity Center a few years ago and all were declared suppressive. This was after the IRS deal. This is just one more instance of how the Church betrays people who do what they want them to do. A long-time staff member at ASHO by the name of Toby Cantine was kicked out of the Sea Org after 25 years because she had some sort of non-lethal physical condition. Just kicked out! The Sea Org shows loyalty to some of its own but often just is as cruel as can be to some of their own members. Most people who are in good standing with the Church know only a part of how the current management works. They are afraid to look on the internet. They are afraid to gossip because they are afraid they will be 'written up' and get into trouble. A lot of them would lose their job or livelihood or family if they got kicked out. Many pity people who get declared suppressive but treat them as though they had gotten cancer or AIDs and there's nothing that they can do about it. Anyway, if you know of people who have done 'A to E' recently and gotten back into good standing let me know. My experience is that once you're out, you're out. But this level of brutality only started maybe 5 or 6 years ago. Or maybe not. But I do know that Bob Veach, who had been a NOTS C/S at AOLA and got declared did do 'A to E' about 10 years ago and was reinstated into good standing. So I think maybe it has changed. But, as I say, my information is limited. Do with it what you will. It is very helpful to me when people who have had recent experiences with the Church post them here. Thank you to them. |