From courtwatch@hotmail.com Thu May 02 12:21:44 2002 Path: sn-us!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!peer1-sjc1.usenetserver.com!usenetserver.com!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.stanford.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 From: Court_Watch <courtwatch@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: ROBERT S. MINTON -- THIRD AFFIDAVIT -- APRIL 24, 2002 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:21:44 -0400 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 152 Message-ID: <fsp2du4lstt0la4ekp6cmds2mtgdj34195@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-086.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 Xref: sn-us alt.religion.scientology:1064583 IN THE CIRCUIT COURT FOR THE SIXTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR PINELLAS COUNTY, STATE OF FLORIDA CIVIL DIVISION Case No. 00-5682-CI-11, Division 11 ESTATE OF LISA MCPHERSON, by and through the personal Representative, DELL LIEBREICH Plaintiff, vs. CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY FLAG SERVICE ORGANIZATION, JANIS JOHNSON, ALAIN KARTUZINSKI and DAVID HOUGHTON, D.D.S., Defendants. ____________________________________ AND RELATED COUNTERCLAIM. ____________________________________/ THIRD AFFIDAVIT OF ROBERT S. MINTON STATE OF FLORIDA ) ) ss. COUNTY OF PINELLAS ) Robert S. Minton, being duly sworn, deposes and says: 1. I am over 18 years old, have personal knowledge of the facts set forth herein, and am otherwise competent to testify in this matter. 2. Jesse Prince attended the hearing on April 9, 2002, during which I testified before Judge Baird to purge myself of contempt. I later was told that Mr. Prince became very upset when he saw me testifying. 3. On Friday, April 12, 2002, Mr. Prince came to see Ms. Brooks and me at the Adam's Mark Hotel on Clearwater Beach. He seemed glad to see us and we had dinner together. During the dinner we talked about the fact that we wanted to end our fight with Scientology and get on with our lives. We discussed what a relief it was to be finally telling the truth about all the things that had happened. I mentioned the meeting in the fall of 1999 where Mr. Dandar wanted our opinions about adding David Miscavige to the lawsuit. At first Mr. Prince didn't remember the meeting, but when Ms. Brooks reminded him that she had been in favor of it until I said I thought it was a bad idea, Mr. Prince said, "Oh yeah, I do remember that meeting now." I then asked him if he remembered Mr. Dandar telling us in the elevator that the meeting "never happened" and he said yes, he did. 4. On Sunday night, April 14, 2002, Mr. Prince came to see Ms. Brooks and me at the hotel we had moved to, the Radisson on Sand Key. He came up to our room and at first he seemed fine, although he was obviously intoxicated. I brought up the subject of Judge Schaeffer's March 8, 2002, hearing and that he had no credibility with Judge Schaeffer. He became very antagonistic and angry. Ms. Brooks suggested we go down to have dinner and talk about it over dinner. When we got to the restaurant downstairs Mr. Prince looked at me in a very angry manner and said, "I'm not going to let you do this. I'm not going to let you go down this road, and I will do everything in my power to stop you." He also said to me, "You have become a Scientologist." He then began talking about an incident he had recounted before, regarding when he was in Scientology and was awakened at 4:45 in the morning and taken to David Miscavige's office. Mr. Prince used extremely foul language as he was telling us this story. I asked him several times to stop using profanity because there was a woman with her young child at the table next to us, but he ignored me. He went into great detail about how he left the office and went and got an AK-47 and another gun and then returned to Mr. Miscavige's office and pointed the guns at Mr. Miscavige. Then he looked straight at me and said, "I don't want to go down that road again. I'm not going to let you do this, Bob." His tone was so threatening that I said to him, "You need to get up from the table and walk out the front door of this hotel. I don't want to see you any more." 5. He then got up and left, and Ms. Brooks followed him outside. She later told me that Mr. Prince began railing against me, saying, "He's never done a f-ing thing for me. F-him, he's a cold-hearted bastard and he's never done a thing for me." I have not only been Mr. Prince's sole source of support from the summer of 1998 to the present, but I also loaned Mr. Prince $50,000 to buy a house in Clearwater. When Mr. Prince was arrested in August 2000, I paid for his defense in a criminal trial for drug possession/cultivation, spending approximately $60,000 on his defense. I later learned he had lied to me about his drug use when I heard the testimony at trial from the prosecution witnesses. 6. Mr. Prince called Ms. Brooks the next day and accused me of trying to "set him up" to have him put in jail. He then again told her that I have "never done a f-ing thing" for him, that I have given "big money" to a lot of other people like Peter Alexander, Patricia Greenway and Ken Dandar but all I've ever done for him was "nickel and dime stuff." He then told Ms. Brooks that he was "working with law enforcement" to try to stop me from testifying, that I was lying about Ken Dandar, and that he was working on an affidavit that would tell the "real story." 7. On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, Mr. Prince had his girlfriend Dee Phillips call Ms. Brooks and me with a message from him. Mr. Prince said that he was "in close contact" with the FDLE and that I could "save myself" if I turned myself in to the FDLE "up to a minute before the hearing." He said someone from the FDLE was going to be in the courtroom the next day (for the hearing before Judge Baird) and that if I lied about anything on the stand I would be "arrested on the spot." He said "whatever trouble you are in with Scientology, the FDLE can get you out of it." 8. The next day he called Ms. Brooks and asked to speak to me. I had her tell him that I would only speak to him with my attorney present. He refused and hung up, but later he called back and agreed to speak to me with my attorney. I called my attorney Bruce Howie and told him what Mr. Prince had said. I asked Mr. Howie to call Mr. Prince. It is my understanding that Mr. Prince said the FDLE and the FBI would be in the courtroom, and that he was going to testify against me. 9. After Mr. Prince visited us at our hotel, there was a posting on the internet announcing where we were staying including the room number we were in, and inviting people to call, presumably to harass us. 10. After I testified in the hearing on April 19, 2002, other witnesses called in the hearing including Patricia Greenway and Peter Alexander, were standing together in front of the courthouse. Ms. Greenway made intimidating remarks to me suggesting that I had made a deal with Scientology. ss. Robert S. Minton ____________________________________ ROBERT S. MINTON STATE OF FLORIDA ) ) ss. COUNTY OF PINELLAS ) The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me to be true and correct to the best of his ability this 24th day of April, 2002, by Robert S. Minton. He is personally known to me and did take an oath. ss. Suzanne Davidson ________________________________________ Notary Public